Parent Murderer Asks for Mercy as an Orphan

Oh I'm sorry, are you crying? Are you crying because your plagiarism machine that made stuff by copying everybody's stuff was used to train another machine that made stuff by copying stuff? Are you going to cry? Cowards, losers, pathetic pic.twitter.com/Xl4JwWXBaW

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) January 29, 2025

Ed Zitron owes me a screen wipe

OK, it's not an actual parent murderer, it's Sam Altman and OpenAI accusing DeepSeek of using its model to train their AI program.

I don't ascribe to the extreme view of IP that has people like Sarah Silverman, Christopher Golden, George R.R. Martin, and John Grisham that learning from copyrighted works is a violation of copyright, and I do not believe that LLM models are actually learning, (a pox on both their houses) but OpenAI is accusing DeepSeek of doing exactly what they have been doing since their founding.

Goose, gander, sauce:

OpenAI says it has found evidence that Chinese artificial intelligence start-up DeepSeek used the US company’s proprietary models to train its own open-source competitor, as concerns grow over a potential breach of intellectual property.

The San Francisco-based ChatGPT maker told the Financial Times it had seen some evidence of “distillation”, which it suspects to be from DeepSeek.

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Distillation is a common practice in the industry but the concern was that DeepSeek may be doing it to build its own rival model, which is a breach of OpenAI’s terms of service.

Yeah, that is exactly what Altman/OpenAI has been accused of doing.

Go fuck yourself, SAM.

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OpenAI declined to comment further or provide details of its evidence. Its terms of service state users cannot “copy” any of its services or “use output to develop models that compete with OpenAI”.

Yeah, well they aren't competing.  They are opensourcing their stuff.

DeepSeek’s release of its R1 reasoning model has surprised markets, as well as investors and technology companies in Silicon Valley. Its built-on-a-shoestring models have attained high rankings and comparable results to leading US models.

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The practice highlights the difficulty for companies keen to protect their technical edge. “We know [China]-based companies — and others — are constantly trying to distil the models of leading US AI companies,” OpenAI said in its latest statement.

By, "Protect their technical edge," OpenAI and its ilk mean, "Extract monopoly rents."

I'd love to see the big LLM companies go down in flames before the VC's have a chance to cash out and dump their stock on clueless low level investors.