16 December 2016

Here Is an Interesting Historical Tidbit That I Was Unaware Of

It appears that the contemporaneous record shows that the deindustrialization of the United States was a deliberate policy. It's goal was to create prosperity in China, so as to create a more friendly relationship and move the "Middle Kingdom" to a more democratic and pluralistic society.

One of the things left unsaid here, because it makes the promulgators of such a policy look like blithering idiots, is that many of the foreign policy and defense "experts" favored this because they had not, and still have not, adjusted their thinking about a need for China to counterweight the USSR.

he argues that te destruction of US manufacturing to aid China was a deliberate policy.
I have been puzzling over this from Paul Krugman:
Donald Trump won the electoral college at least in part by promising to bring coal jobs back to Appalachia and manufacturing jobs back to the Rust Belt. Neither promise can be honored – for the most part we’re talking about jobs lost, not to unfair foreign competition, but to technological change. But a funny thing happens when people like me try to point that out: we get enraged responses from economists who feel an affinity for the working people of the afflicted regions – responses that assume that trying to do the numbers must reflect contempt for regional cultures, or something.

Is this the right narrative? I am no longer comfortable with this line:
…for the most part we’re talking about jobs lost, not to unfair foreign competition, but to technological change.
Try to place that line in context with this from Noah Smith:
Then, in the 1990s and 2000s, the U.S opened its markets to Chinese goods, first with Most Favored Nation trading status, and then by supporting China's accession to the WTO. The resulting competition from cheap Chinese goods contributed to vast inequality in the United States, reversing many of the employment gains of the 1990s and holding down U.S. wages. But this sacrifice on the part of 90% of the American populace enabled China to lift its enormous population out of abject poverty and become a middle-income country.
Was this “fair” trade? I think not. Let me suggest this narrative: Sometime during the Clinton Administration, it was decided that an economically strong China was good for both the globe and the U.S. Fair enough. To enable that outcome, U.S. policy deliberately sacrificed manufacturing workers on the theory that a.) the marginal global benefit from the job gain to a Chinese worker exceeded the marginal global cost from a lost US manufacturing job, b.) the U.S. was shifting toward a service sector economy anyway and needed to reposition its workforce accordingly and c.) the transition costs of shifting workers across sectors in the U.S. were minimal.

As a consequence – and through a succession of administrations – the US tolerated implicit subsidies of Chinese industries, including national industrial policy designed to strip production from the US.
It's a straight path from these policies to Donald Trump, particularly as Mr. Duy observes, the transition costs were not minimal, they were huge.

Thanks, Bill.

1 comments :

DJF said...

“”””It's goal was to create prosperity in China, so as to create a more friendly relationship and move the "Middle Kingdom" to a more democratic and pluralistic society.”””

I believe this is just a cover story to hide the real reason. Profit, some people wanted to get very rich using access to very cheap labor who would work long hours in bad conditions in order that vast profits would be generated due to providing cheap goods that undercut the goods produced by more wealthy workers.

Same with the cover story about Nixon going to China to split the Chinese away from the Soviet Union. This ignored the fact that they were already split, Mao and the Soviets dislike each other since the Soviets had denounced one man Stalin rule while Mao liked one man rule, especially if Mao was the ruler, the Soviets also thought that they were the senior communist country and China should listen to them, China thought the Soviets were smelly northern barbarians. And they were even having border battles.

Both the “make more democratic and spit China from the Soviets are shown to be wrong since neither happened, China is no more democratic now then it was before and the China/Soviet split did not get any wider.

And today the US won’t even talk about human right let alone democracy in China because it might cut into profits for the traders. The last time I remember the US bringing the subject up was when that blind Chinese dissident climbed over the wall into the US embassy and the US had to talk about it. And since then he has been ignored by almost everyone.

Now this does not mean there were no true believers of those cover story’s, the best cover stories have true believers but if some people had not seen that they would get wealthy, neither of these cover stories would have been supported by government actions

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